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Youtube’s AdBlock detection might break the law in the EU
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Youtube’s AdBlock detection might break the law in the EU
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this is based on the idea that youtube would need to run some code that would violate your rights, which is most likely not the case. A websides code is running in a sandbox and has only access to the information the browser is providing. If this information is considered sensitive, it’s first and foremost the browsers responsibility to hide it from that website. Youtube is not quoting their terms of service to justify running malware. They are quoting the terms of service to justify denying you access to the content.
If this really would go to european courts I’d say the odds are 70/30 in favour of adblockers
I don’t see how this argument can be consistent with how modern websites use JavaScript.
If I run code to get to get information about a clients computer without their consent, I am going to have a heck of a time trying to do things like sizing content I load in an iframe to the users browser width.
A lot of what you use JavaScript for is getting information dynamically about the state of the users browser to best display information. We might not like that in this case they are doing it to make you view ads, but in other cases, we really might prefer that we correctly size content based on the window resolution or don’t start playing interactive media content until the content is fully loaded on the client.
Then I can see any ad based service requiring subscription to use in Europe.
both youtube and google will present a HUGE popup with a wall of legal text when browsing not logged in from Europe.
you can check this by using a vpn and connect from Europe IP in private mode, to simulate first time visit.
also disable adblockers for this test as they may remove/reload the page when they will detect that popup and you will fail to see it.
edit: here found a screen on net, something like this but this one is not the current one but is close
https://i.imgur.com/m4D5Btm.jpg
This guy needs to make video shorter. Otherwise he will just continue to preach to the choir. And it’s not that he doesn’t get to the point quickly. He actually does. The issue is that he repeats himself a lot.
Less is unfortunately more when it comes to enlightening people.
Twitch has been doing this for years and what law hasn’t Google broke, this all means nothing.
Tons of websites detect it, and then some like twitch actually get around blockers and force ads. I’m really surprised it took YouTube this long and why they didn’t copy twitch.
Yeah no. Doesn’t understand the technical implementation of how ad blockers are detected.
YouTube has a right to dictate that users don’t get to consume its services if they block ads which are the lifeblood of its revenue. YouTube is incredibly expensive to run, maintain, and develop, and it gets more expensive by the day. It’s a wonder it’s free at all. They need to ad support to pay for it.
I was under the impression that this warning only pops up for users who are logged into their account
Obviously since Youtube needs my permission to run code on my computer. That means Youtube is doing the equivalent of spyware or a virus on my computer.
Big if true
Does this actually do anything? I get the pop up but I just close it and ad blocker still works.
Me thinks Europe takes regulation a little to far. It is a fine line. Humans need to feel safe and protected but if you try to control them to much, they eventually snap.
It doesn’t, since you can subscribe for premium where you don’t have adds.
This guy is just so fundamentally wrong on GDPR. For example, he claims that he has a right to track IP visits to his sites and analyze data as he see fits and compares it to someone breaking into his house. That’s certainly not what GDPR says.
First and most importantly, there are many obvious limitations to how a site uses IP addresses of visitors. For example, websites have famously been found in violation of GDPR simply for sending the IP of a visitor to google through a CDN request. [https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=LG_M%C3%BCnchen_-_3_O_17493/20](https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=LG_M%C3%BCnchen_-_3_O_17493/20) . This is because google is known to store IPs and anaylze their data, and even assisting with that indirectly is in violation. In this example, the server didn’t even need to save that IP on its own database.
Websites that care to consider GDPR spend a lot of time deciding how long to store IPs and whether or not to store them at all. A bit part of that is Article 25. [https://gdpr.eu/article-25-data-protection-by-design](https://gdpr.eu/article-25-data-protection-by-design) The requirements that it set for how we handle this information is naturally becoming more stringent as the best practices and tools for web hosting evolve. Things like regular ip dumping have become common practice, and more complicated practices such as ephemeral identifiers in place of client IP addresses allow websites to protect themselves against flood attacks and achieve other fundamental functionality without ever storing IPs on the database at all. As these practices proliferate, it becomes increasingly difficult to argue that not doing it is not in violation of article 25.
This whole video reeks of Americanism and what ‘should’ be right rather than what the eu law actually says.
More important than the issue of youtube’s adblock blocking being legal is the fact that your computer is exactly that … it’s yours. Code added by youtube is being run on YOUR computer. You can accept that it is running or you change it. You have every right to decide for yourself what code is executed and the way it runs. What I am trying to tell you is that the youtube’s blocking of adblock can be blocked/circumvented. I am not going to tell you in this forum how I did it because if I did so, the work-around I am using currently would probably stop working. I don’t want that to happen so you’ll have to find a way around youtube’s new code yourself. All you have to do is accept that you have the power to change things for the better and TRY to do so. Has anybody here even TRIED to get around youtube’s restriction? If not, why not? Has it not occurred to you to search google for a solution? That’s what I did. I had the work around in about 20 minutes. I’m not a programmer. I don’t write code of any kind. I don’t have the skillset to analyze youtube’s block and figure out how it works, but there are literally millions of people who do have the skill set. Some among them will use their skills to find way to get around youtube’s block and some of them will post directions online which you can follow to do the same thing. It is a mathematical certainty. All you have to do is try.
Ad blockers should always be available. Not just about ads. I put ad blockers on ppls computers whenever help someone with something.
Stops dumb and gullible ppl falling for scams and things that often around, some sites are terrible with ads with crap everywhere blocking an article.
If compaines want to try and outlaw ad blockers then they should have to take more responsibility for the ads ppl are served.
That’s fine. I still don’t get ads on youtube. Opera for ever!
That guy’s side gig is auctioneer.
I think illegal here in the States, too. Illegally scanning my computer for programs. Then blocking free access.
Even if it does break EU law, which I highly doubt, doesn’t mean shit for us in the States. They would just the detection off in Europe.
Adblock app on my phone works just fine, PC is another story.
I actually welcome the new ad block blocker.
It has made me watch less shitty videos then ever before.
Now.. I think before even beginning a video if I actually care about the content. Because I know the video will be interrupted at least twice with some ad. Not to mention the in video “supported content” ad.
Wish you the best Louis.. because I know you read reddit comments.
Does he not know that all these companies simply don’t care because they eat the fines they are given? Walmart, Microsoft, Google, J&J, etc have all been paying heavy fines for YEARS becaues the earnings is more than the fines.
The governments don’t change the laws, because they LIKE the fines.
You can’t watch a youtube video or normail web page these days with out javascript enabled. If you disable javascript you get a skeleton page. This has nothing to do with cookies.