Interesting. What I really wonder is why the top players in this discipline take fewer than the allotted 15 seconds for inspection. Is it pride, because they themselves would like to compare times such as those in the video? Or is there just no benefit to it?
I think the video raises a good point in the end that there should be a new discipline. But its summed up times and new rankings are meaningless, the players were not trying to solve as quick as possible.
The phase the competition might be called “The Solve” but that’s just how speedcubers refer to it. They could call it, The Manipulation, The Mechanical, The Set Right, The Fingering, or The TwistyTurnyColorChurnie. Youtuber is being pedantic.
To use his own example against him. The fastest 100 meter race time doesn’t include the time to get set in the blocks, time to warm up, or time to get equipment on. All three are vital to setting the fastest times to run the 100 meters but it’s never included.
I like the idea of a cubing competition where inspection is part of the official time, however, applying this rule retroactively to competitors who weren’t playing by those rules is a pointless exercise and the results are meaningless. Every one of the competitors shown in this video knew that inspection time wasn’t part of the official time so they had no incentive to do it as quickly as possible. It’s obvious from watching the clips of these solves that they weren’t trying to minimize inspection time beyond giving the 15 second time limit plenty of headroom for safety.
Had these competitors actually been operating under the proposed new rules where inspection time is included, who knows what could have happened, but this video certainly doesn’t show that.
It’s also worth pointing out that there was variability in how long the competitors held their hand on the actual “solve” timer before starting, and there was also no incentive to minimize this for the same reason.
I see his point but as he himself proves in this video once you start taking total time into account the results prove to be much more random (rank 99 moving into first place). I’m no cuber but it seems to me that the point of only recording the “solve” is an attempt to remove the random element of the scramble from the official results. You could also argue that the reason the current champs are so fast is because they take longer to think about their solutions.
To me this seems to be the difference between treating this as a thinking game or a dexterity game so maybe cubers can decide what they want or make a new category or something. Also as he suggests it could be used as a tiebreaker mechanic.
This is basically like cup stacks competition, they just follow the same pattern and see who can do it fastest. Its not intricate or that interesting to anyone who knows how to solve a rubiks cube, which isnt hard, theres four basic moves
Hell yeah include both phases in the official time.
Insane that it takes a full 5 min before the guy gets to his point
Interesting. What I really wonder is why the top players in this discipline take fewer than the allotted 15 seconds for inspection. Is it pride, because they themselves would like to compare times such as those in the video? Or is there just no benefit to it?
I think the video raises a good point in the end that there should be a new discipline. But its summed up times and new rankings are meaningless, the players were not trying to solve as quick as possible.
Saw it was over 13 minutes and shut it off. There is no universe where his point takes more than three minutes to make.
Change your algorithm YouTube! Stop encouraging these boring, drawn-out video essays.
That uptalk is unbearable.
The phase the competition might be called “The Solve” but that’s just how speedcubers refer to it. They could call it, The Manipulation, The Mechanical, The Set Right, The Fingering, or The TwistyTurnyColorChurnie. Youtuber is being pedantic.
To use his own example against him. The fastest 100 meter race time doesn’t include the time to get set in the blocks, time to warm up, or time to get equipment on. All three are vital to setting the fastest times to run the 100 meters but it’s never included.
I like the idea of a cubing competition where inspection is part of the official time, however, applying this rule retroactively to competitors who weren’t playing by those rules is a pointless exercise and the results are meaningless. Every one of the competitors shown in this video knew that inspection time wasn’t part of the official time so they had no incentive to do it as quickly as possible. It’s obvious from watching the clips of these solves that they weren’t trying to minimize inspection time beyond giving the 15 second time limit plenty of headroom for safety.
Had these competitors actually been operating under the proposed new rules where inspection time is included, who knows what could have happened, but this video certainly doesn’t show that.
It’s also worth pointing out that there was variability in how long the competitors held their hand on the actual “solve” timer before starting, and there was also no incentive to minimize this for the same reason.
I see his point but as he himself proves in this video once you start taking total time into account the results prove to be much more random (rank 99 moving into first place). I’m no cuber but it seems to me that the point of only recording the “solve” is an attempt to remove the random element of the scramble from the official results. You could also argue that the reason the current champs are so fast is because they take longer to think about their solutions.
To me this seems to be the difference between treating this as a thinking game or a dexterity game so maybe cubers can decide what they want or make a new category or something. Also as he suggests it could be used as a tiebreaker mechanic.
This is basically like cup stacks competition, they just follow the same pattern and see who can do it fastest. Its not intricate or that interesting to anyone who knows how to solve a rubiks cube, which isnt hard, theres four basic moves
This could have been a 1 minute video…