Before there was the Magic Boardgames, my boarding gaming crew use to stick to only the premade decks up until snow lands. We would shuffled the boxes around and grab one and that was your deck. We was too broke to be buying boosters but we did like the game and still play it but only with pre made decks
Sadly, my collection spanning from Alpha to mirage/visions was taken by junkies.. I still stew over this… So much Ice Age. So many old cards.. Gone. So some piece of shit could get high for a couple hours…
Commander was a real breath of fresh air to the game. My brother and I have bought at least 30 commander decks just because of how much FUN we had with them. And then Wizards realized the goose was golden and started pumping out 15 commander decks PER YEAR. We haven’t touched the game since last year. Sucks.
This made me quit playing MTG with cards. I still have some Steam games that I could play if I wanted. But, I grew tired of having to buy new packs regularly.
We would just play with proxies type 1. Free and OP decks.
Also draft and sealed tournaments were cheap way to get cards and required winning with cheap decks. Also Warhammer came out 10 years before and was much more brutal p2w.
My sons bought commander decks and thought they were hot shit. I used their cards and played against them for awhile while I built my own deck. Helped me get familiar with the game again after almost 20 years.
Then my necroduality deck was done and my kids hated me because every time we played I’d cover the table in zombies.
I used to do the same thing with a green deck and 1/1 squirrels back in the day.
This is what killed out magic nights. One of the people would just ebay and spend hundreds on whatever the newest meta was while the rest of us were just dickin around with goblin burn decks cause we didn’t care for spending on every sing new release.
And that’s why as I’m getting back into MTG after years away I’m only focusing on Draft. Don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars to craft the perfect deck; just pay $16, open your packs, and hope the odds are on your side. The rest comes down to how good you are at working with sub-optimal cards.
A long time ago, in school, I would try to play against upper-middle-class kids who had access to basically any cards they wanted, and I was poor with a few hundred cards. I’d always lose. Until I built a cheesy red/blue deck full of red direct damage spells and blue counterspells, power sinks, and control magic. I really couldn’t lose at that point, I’d just destroy, counter, or control everything they tried to cast, or quickly erase their health with lightning bolts and fireballs.
Yeah, pay to win, it’s basically what killed the game for me. When you buy packs and try your best to put a deck together only to be destroyed by someone who spent $2000 on cards, it’s not fun, especially when you don’t have $2000 to also dump on cards. The game itself is just a roundabout way of seeing who’s wallet was bigger.
While I will never say it’s not an addiction (it is) or buying boosters isn’t gambling (it is) the game itself ain’t really pay to win. Sure it’s not F2P in paper but you can buy singles and build a reasonable deck to play at an LGS
I still remember when someone won a tournament pre-2000 using all common/cheap red/green beaters. Kirk Ape, Ironclaw Orcs, Orcish Artillery.. . It was hilarious.
I suggest cube. Take ~100 good cards of each color (+some artifacts + lands). Shuffle. Make piles of 15. These acts as boosters, draft. After games, shuffle and go again.
You _can_ use a lot of money to put expensive cards in the cube. You can also make junk cube. Or pauper cube. Or whatever. As long as colors are balanced and have some kind of curve.
Swaping stuff keeps it fresh. You can also play other formats with it like winchester draft.
You know what. You right. And musical chairs is the og Battle royal
Before there was the Magic Boardgames, my boarding gaming crew use to stick to only the premade decks up until snow lands. We would shuffled the boxes around and grab one and that was your deck. We was too broke to be buying boosters but we did like the game and still play it but only with pre made decks
Sadly, my collection spanning from Alpha to mirage/visions was taken by junkies.. I still stew over this… So much Ice Age. So many old cards.. Gone. So some piece of shit could get high for a couple hours…
I still have my sliver deck. Man that shit cost me back in the day
Commander was a real breath of fresh air to the game. My brother and I have bought at least 30 commander decks just because of how much FUN we had with them. And then Wizards realized the goose was golden and started pumping out 15 commander decks PER YEAR. We haven’t touched the game since last year. Sucks.
pay to win, has the goblin lyre in the picture.
you’re clearly insane.
This made me quit playing MTG with cards. I still have some Steam games that I could play if I wanted. But, I grew tired of having to buy new packs regularly.
I used to play with some hardcore players but stopped when I realized I don’t have $3000 to spend on a deck.
Love the art work though
We would just play with proxies type 1. Free and OP decks.
Also draft and sealed tournaments were cheap way to get cards and required winning with cheap decks. Also Warhammer came out 10 years before and was much more brutal p2w.
I always tried to make decks out of common cards. Worked marvelously for Pokemon card game but only about 50% of the time for Magic.
My sons bought commander decks and thought they were hot shit. I used their cards and played against them for awhile while I built my own deck. Helped me get familiar with the game again after almost 20 years.
Then my necroduality deck was done and my kids hated me because every time we played I’d cover the table in zombies.
I used to do the same thing with a green deck and 1/1 squirrels back in the day.
*laughs in pauper*
This is what killed out magic nights. One of the people would just ebay and spend hundreds on whatever the newest meta was while the rest of us were just dickin around with goblin burn decks cause we didn’t care for spending on every sing new release.
And that’s why as I’m getting back into MTG after years away I’m only focusing on Draft. Don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars to craft the perfect deck; just pay $16, open your packs, and hope the odds are on your side. The rest comes down to how good you are at working with sub-optimal cards.
Lately I’ve been playing MTG on Tabletop Simulator so I can import any deck I want without money being an issue!
I could have bought a Black Lotus in New York a long time ago for 400 dollars, but I wasted it on beer and women
Not if you only play limited, then it’s just a pay to play game.
Draft format is actually remarkably fair, and there is literally no way to pay for better cards than your opponent.
full of microtransactions
Proxies people, Proxies! 🙂
Pay to play
Magic the Money Scheme is what I heard it called when it first came out.
A long time ago, in school, I would try to play against upper-middle-class kids who had access to basically any cards they wanted, and I was poor with a few hundred cards. I’d always lose. Until I built a cheesy red/blue deck full of red direct damage spells and blue counterspells, power sinks, and control magic. I really couldn’t lose at that point, I’d just destroy, counter, or control everything they tried to cast, or quickly erase their health with lightning bolts and fireballs.
I felt a little bad, but you do what you have to.
I played from 1994-2004. I really miss those days
Yeah, pay to win, it’s basically what killed the game for me. When you buy packs and try your best to put a deck together only to be destroyed by someone who spent $2000 on cards, it’s not fun, especially when you don’t have $2000 to also dump on cards. The game itself is just a roundabout way of seeing who’s wallet was bigger.
Best way to cheat the system is a printer
I was going to argue that POGs were, but it appears that M:TG is actually a year older than the POG craze.
Just recently made a commander deck for $5 and it SLAPS so this post is generally correct but you can have fun with magic for cheap too!
My proxies laugh at your empty wallet
More like loot box.
Someone hasn’t seen what yugioh cards cost
Psssh fuck that proxy all the way baby
While I will never say it’s not an addiction (it is) or buying boosters isn’t gambling (it is) the game itself ain’t really pay to win. Sure it’s not F2P in paper but you can buy singles and build a reasonable deck to play at an LGS
Right and wrong at the same time
I still remember when someone won a tournament pre-2000 using all common/cheap red/green beaters. Kirk Ape, Ironclaw Orcs, Orcish Artillery.. . It was hilarious.
Let your child play mtg and collect warhammer minis, then they don’t have money for drugs.
I suggest cube. Take ~100 good cards of each color (+some artifacts + lands). Shuffle. Make piles of 15. These acts as boosters, draft. After games, shuffle and go again.
You _can_ use a lot of money to put expensive cards in the cube. You can also make junk cube. Or pauper cube. Or whatever. As long as colors are balanced and have some kind of curve.
Swaping stuff keeps it fresh. You can also play other formats with it like winchester draft.