The fact that the first few seconds of it focused strictly on Endgame and tried to sell it like a continuation of that when it’s been years and a bunch of content that’s been released since makes it seem like they’re desperately grasping at straws to attract butts in the seats..
Oh yeah, they’re probably going to ice Captain Marvel for the foreseeable future.
Too strong to do anything with but don’t want to kill her off because that’ll piss off a LOT of their fanbase, so this is the decision they’ll make that’ll annoy everyone and please no one.
“Everything will change.” Yeah, I’m gonna guess “not so much but kind of so they can make changes in the future if needed.” Nothing says “creative endeavor” like hedging your bets!
It’s pretty crazy that the MCU was so cohesive and focused from 2008 — with the release of Iron Man and the first hints of the Avengers assembling — to 2019 when it all paid off with *Avengers: Endgame.* There was clearly a unified creative vision and a goal that all the movies built toward.
But since 2019, the MCU has been fragmented and aimless. What’s happened in all these more recent movies and Disney+ shows barely feel connected. And there doesn’t seem to be a goal anymore.
For example, he world was nearly destroyed in *The Eternals*, and there’s a colossal, frozen Celestial baby sticking out of one of the oceans, but I don’t think that’s ever been mentioned again. The Eternals were never mentioned again, either. So that film didn’t contribute to an overarching story.
Did *Thor: Love and Thunder* contribute to an overarching story? Didn’t seem like it.
*Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3* was good, and it wrapped up the GotG as we know them, but again, it didn’t contribute to an overarching story.
I enjoyed *Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness*, that seemed to be its own thing, too.
I guess there’s no longer a unifying goal in the MCU?
By the way, who’s the next Thanos-level biggest of bads? Kang? The dude who got his ass kicked by Ant-Man?
Speaking of big bads, look at the nobody they got to be the main villain in *The Marvels.* The character’s name is Dar-Benn, an obscure Marvel character that I’m betting nobody cares about.
This is the entirety of Dar-Benn’s entry in Wikipedia:
>Dar-Benn is a character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character, created by Ron Marz and Ron Lim, first appeared in Silver Surfer vol. 3 #53 (June 1991). He was a male Pink Kree General who used a robot of the Silver Surfer to execute Clumsy Foulup and General Dwi-Zann during the Infinity Gauntlet. He was killed by Deathbird during the Kree-Shi’ar war.
>
>Dar-Benn in other media
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>A female version of Dar-Benn will appear in The Marvels, portrayed by Zawe Ashton.
It would have been only 1 paragraph, but it got extended to 2 paragraphs thanks to a mention of *The Marvels* movie.
This is the entirety of Dar-Benn’s entry on the Marvel Database:
>General Dar-Benn along with Ael-Dan and several other Kree soldiers, after growing tired of the rule of Clumsy Foulup, planned to assassinate him and rule in his place. To this end they had a robotic Silver Surfer created so that Clumsy would die and his death could be placed at the feet of the Skrulls.
>
>Ael-Dan and Dar-Benn became joint emperors of the Kree Empire. During Operation Galactic Storm, both were murdered by Deathbird. Their minds were later absorbed into the Supreme Intelligence.
Again, only 2 paragraphs long. According to that page, the character was introduced in 1991 and then died in 1992.
So the big bad of *The Marvels* is a character that only lasted for 1 year in the comics, and who probably has never been mentioned in the past 30 years, until now.
Marvel Studios is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for their villains nowadays.
The tone this trailer has is the exact opposite of the vibe all of the previous trailers had which were probably more reflective of the tone of the actual movie. I’m not hoping the movie is bad at all and I thought it looked pretty fun from the first trailer. This just seems really desperate and like they are trying to make this movie seem like something it’s not. I really hope they didn’t make major changes to the movie because they panicked. Spoiling one cameo and then baiting us with another is really cheap. And is it normal to drop a final trailer 4 days before it comes out?
Watching Monday Night Football on my lunch break. I could count 5 times where there was a commercial for The Marvels. They …..um definitely don’t want this to open worse than The Flash. Hell, looking back at Love and Thunder, that had radio commercials that played constant during the marketing of that.
If they were going to make a team-up movie with B-level characters that people don’t even know well, they should have at least made the villain somewhat impressive.
God, they’re really just trying to get anyone to watch this, aren’t they. But the sad thing is, Marvel really only has two tricks. It’s either a peppy fun movie with quips and lighthearted fun or the most epic important event ever that you must bare witness to. But through all of these trailers, I’m seeing absolutely no emotional core to get me invested. The use of old footage in this trailer just feels so desperate because the conflict of Endgame has absolutely nothing to do with this story (hell, Carol was hardly in that film). You look at the beginning of the first trailer for Across the Spider-Verse, which similarly reuses a lot of footage, and there was clearly a thematic purpose behind it. It’s showing the themes of growth, belonging, and family and how they will be expanded upon from the first film into the second, tying it all together with the speech layered over top of it. This tells me that there’s just very little meat to this story. It’s all the same “learn to work together, you took everything from me, stand for something greater,” nonsense we’ve seen the MCU do a million times by now.
I’m really optimistic for this movie, but man is this trailer so misleading and reeks of desperation.
The movie is coming out in a couple days it’s likely this movie doesn’t even come close to breaking even. So what do they do? They release a final trailer that is so different from every other piece of marketing for this movie.
They abandon the fun lightheartedness and the power switching from all the other trailers and spots. They make it seem a LOT more serious, which includes barely including any Ms Marvel in the trailer, who is one of the leads of the movie. The start off the trailer trying to bait out audiences members, acting as if this is a continuation of Avengers and endgame, and even have a line that is meant to imply that the main villain is connected to Thanos. They also spoil a Valkyrie cameo, tease heavy multiverse plots, and then put a shot of Monica next to an X-men computer as one of the closing shots of the trailer.
This movie, just going off of this trailer, seems completely different to everything that we’ve seen from this movie before. Its gonna bomb, and that sucks, but starting to advertise this movie as something is completely not is just distasteful not only to the audience, but the cast and crew. Like you had to shaft one of your main leads just so the movie seemed more serious, that’s just messed up. Again, I’m optimistic for this movie. It seems fun, and Dacosta is great, but this trailer is just embarrassing
Disney needs to realise they need to overcome the “ehhh I’ll wait until it’s on Disney plus” because people know they just need to wait a little and they can watch it on D+ at no extra cost. None of this marketing has convinced me I don’t need to wait. I may go as Marvel movies have been an excuse to meet a friend….. But that wouldn’t be down to the promotion.
They need to do more than convince people they may want to watch, but also that they can’t wait to see it, and it needs the big screen.
And this isn’t just a Marvels problem or even a Marvel problem. It’s everything. I wanted to see Indiana Jonesz but also never felt a rush to see it because I could just wait.
Guardians of the galaxy 3 felt like it was more of an event than Marvels does. I bet Wish will also underperform but do ok when it’s on the service
Disney flew too close to the sun with the MCU. They should’ve killed it after Endgame and focus on standalone film and series with distinct styles. I feel like Disney+ also caused an overexposure. It’s just too much.
This is gonna bomb so hard
The fact that the first few seconds of it focused strictly on Endgame and tried to sell it like a continuation of that when it’s been years and a bunch of content that’s been released since makes it seem like they’re desperately grasping at straws to attract butts in the seats..
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Oh yeah, they’re probably going to ice Captain Marvel for the foreseeable future.
Too strong to do anything with but don’t want to kill her off because that’ll piss off a LOT of their fanbase, so this is the decision they’ll make that’ll annoy everyone and please no one.
“Everything will change.” Yeah, I’m gonna guess “not so much but kind of so they can make changes in the future if needed.” Nothing says “creative endeavor” like hedging your bets!
They’re going hard with the end game clips. This is gonna be *bad* bad
Pulling out Iron Man and Cap. Pure desperation
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I see they’re courting the “confused casual who thinks Cap and Tony are gonna be in this” demo.
Bold strategy, Cotton.
Hard pass
This is just sad at this point…
Imagine having to go all the way back to reference a 2019 movie because almost everything you’ve done since then has been crap.
A lot of Iron Man and Captain America for this movie with no Iron Man or Captain America.
Kamala Khan doesn’t even show up until more than halfway through the trailer.
So nobody’s gonna talk about the bifrost and someone walks pass Monica?
‘Member???
Poor Kamala is hardly even in this trailer.
They have no faith in this film. The first quarter is another movie. Our main heroes are not hyped at all. It’s just generic action and space lasers.
It’s pretty crazy that the MCU was so cohesive and focused from 2008 — with the release of Iron Man and the first hints of the Avengers assembling — to 2019 when it all paid off with *Avengers: Endgame.* There was clearly a unified creative vision and a goal that all the movies built toward.
But since 2019, the MCU has been fragmented and aimless. What’s happened in all these more recent movies and Disney+ shows barely feel connected. And there doesn’t seem to be a goal anymore.
For example, he world was nearly destroyed in *The Eternals*, and there’s a colossal, frozen Celestial baby sticking out of one of the oceans, but I don’t think that’s ever been mentioned again. The Eternals were never mentioned again, either. So that film didn’t contribute to an overarching story.
Did *Thor: Love and Thunder* contribute to an overarching story? Didn’t seem like it.
*Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3* was good, and it wrapped up the GotG as we know them, but again, it didn’t contribute to an overarching story.
I enjoyed *Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness*, that seemed to be its own thing, too.
I guess there’s no longer a unifying goal in the MCU?
By the way, who’s the next Thanos-level biggest of bads? Kang? The dude who got his ass kicked by Ant-Man?
Speaking of big bads, look at the nobody they got to be the main villain in *The Marvels.* The character’s name is Dar-Benn, an obscure Marvel character that I’m betting nobody cares about.
This is the entirety of Dar-Benn’s entry in Wikipedia:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_D#Dar-Benn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_D#Dar-Benn)
>Dar-Benn is a character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character, created by Ron Marz and Ron Lim, first appeared in Silver Surfer vol. 3 #53 (June 1991). He was a male Pink Kree General who used a robot of the Silver Surfer to execute Clumsy Foulup and General Dwi-Zann during the Infinity Gauntlet. He was killed by Deathbird during the Kree-Shi’ar war.
>
>Dar-Benn in other media
>
>A female version of Dar-Benn will appear in The Marvels, portrayed by Zawe Ashton.
It would have been only 1 paragraph, but it got extended to 2 paragraphs thanks to a mention of *The Marvels* movie.
This is the entirety of Dar-Benn’s entry on the Marvel Database:
[https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Dar-Benn_(Earth-616)](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Dar-Benn_(Earth-616))
>General Dar-Benn along with Ael-Dan and several other Kree soldiers, after growing tired of the rule of Clumsy Foulup, planned to assassinate him and rule in his place. To this end they had a robotic Silver Surfer created so that Clumsy would die and his death could be placed at the feet of the Skrulls.
>
>Ael-Dan and Dar-Benn became joint emperors of the Kree Empire. During Operation Galactic Storm, both were murdered by Deathbird. Their minds were later absorbed into the Supreme Intelligence.
Again, only 2 paragraphs long. According to that page, the character was introduced in 1991 and then died in 1992.
So the big bad of *The Marvels* is a character that only lasted for 1 year in the comics, and who probably has never been mentioned in the past 30 years, until now.
Marvel Studios is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for their villains nowadays.
Marvel movies ironically followed how modern comic books have too many events.
Oh look, another CBM with way, way too much CGI and a world ending threat that is going to be thwarted and no one will think about again.
I bet they’re going to be risky and have even *more* quips void of substance.
The tone this trailer has is the exact opposite of the vibe all of the previous trailers had which were probably more reflective of the tone of the actual movie. I’m not hoping the movie is bad at all and I thought it looked pretty fun from the first trailer. This just seems really desperate and like they are trying to make this movie seem like something it’s not. I really hope they didn’t make major changes to the movie because they panicked. Spoiling one cameo and then baiting us with another is really cheap. And is it normal to drop a final trailer 4 days before it comes out?
He said “black girl magic?”
Did I hear that right?
0% interest.
Final trailer?
There were other trailers?
I’m in this sub all the time.
WTF?!
Watching Monday Night Football on my lunch break. I could count 5 times where there was a commercial for The Marvels. They …..um definitely don’t want this to open worse than The Flash. Hell, looking back at Love and Thunder, that had radio commercials that played constant during the marketing of that.
If they were going to make a team-up movie with B-level characters that people don’t even know well, they should have at least made the villain somewhat impressive.
God, they’re really just trying to get anyone to watch this, aren’t they. But the sad thing is, Marvel really only has two tricks. It’s either a peppy fun movie with quips and lighthearted fun or the most epic important event ever that you must bare witness to. But through all of these trailers, I’m seeing absolutely no emotional core to get me invested. The use of old footage in this trailer just feels so desperate because the conflict of Endgame has absolutely nothing to do with this story (hell, Carol was hardly in that film). You look at the beginning of the first trailer for Across the Spider-Verse, which similarly reuses a lot of footage, and there was clearly a thematic purpose behind it. It’s showing the themes of growth, belonging, and family and how they will be expanded upon from the first film into the second, tying it all together with the speech layered over top of it. This tells me that there’s just very little meat to this story. It’s all the same “learn to work together, you took everything from me, stand for something greater,” nonsense we’ve seen the MCU do a million times by now.
Am I the only one who find Brie Larson… unlikeable? The attempts to write her character more likeable just make it worse.
I am excited to once again be disappointed yet again for the first time.
If they are hitching their wagon on Brie Larson then the Marvel universe really is going to end.
Flop incoming..0
I’m really optimistic for this movie, but man is this trailer so misleading and reeks of desperation.
The movie is coming out in a couple days it’s likely this movie doesn’t even come close to breaking even. So what do they do? They release a final trailer that is so different from every other piece of marketing for this movie.
They abandon the fun lightheartedness and the power switching from all the other trailers and spots. They make it seem a LOT more serious, which includes barely including any Ms Marvel in the trailer, who is one of the leads of the movie. The start off the trailer trying to bait out audiences members, acting as if this is a continuation of Avengers and endgame, and even have a line that is meant to imply that the main villain is connected to Thanos. They also spoil a Valkyrie cameo, tease heavy multiverse plots, and then put a shot of Monica next to an X-men computer as one of the closing shots of the trailer.
This movie, just going off of this trailer, seems completely different to everything that we’ve seen from this movie before. Its gonna bomb, and that sucks, but starting to advertise this movie as something is completely not is just distasteful not only to the audience, but the cast and crew. Like you had to shaft one of your main leads just so the movie seemed more serious, that’s just messed up. Again, I’m optimistic for this movie. It seems fun, and Dacosta is great, but this trailer is just embarrassing
Disney needs to realise they need to overcome the “ehhh I’ll wait until it’s on Disney plus” because people know they just need to wait a little and they can watch it on D+ at no extra cost. None of this marketing has convinced me I don’t need to wait. I may go as Marvel movies have been an excuse to meet a friend….. But that wouldn’t be down to the promotion.
They need to do more than convince people they may want to watch, but also that they can’t wait to see it, and it needs the big screen.
And this isn’t just a Marvels problem or even a Marvel problem. It’s everything. I wanted to see Indiana Jonesz but also never felt a rush to see it because I could just wait.
Guardians of the galaxy 3 felt like it was more of an event than Marvels does. I bet Wish will also underperform but do ok when it’s on the service
WOOHOO more supercape shit that I won’t be wasting time on.
They pulling the ole iron man 3 razzle dazzle
No one cares. I’d rather watch a fly buzz around my kitchen.
I’m so far behind on MCU stuff at this point that I’ll probably never see this one.
Disney flew too close to the sun with the MCU. They should’ve killed it after Endgame and focus on standalone film and series with distinct styles. I feel like Disney+ also caused an overexposure. It’s just too much.