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Star Trek: Picard Season 3, Episodes 8, 9, and 10 – re:View
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“I unapologetically loved the whole season.”
– Mike Stoklasa
Well damn. I never thought I’d hear those words from him about any modern Star Trek show but I’m glad he loved it as much as I did.
This really has been a fairly mindblowing season of TV. I really can’t think of any other show that has been this drastically improved in a third season versus the first two. Managing that, sticking the landing, while putting the franchise in a better place than it’s been in 30 years is a hell of a feat.
I do hope there are multiple execs at Paramount now nervously conscious of this success and how little enthusiasm there is for a Starfleet Academy show or a Section 31 movie.
Tbh this may be the biggest quality turnaround i’ve seen. The only thing that compares imo is TWD’s improvement in quality from season 8 to 9. But even this is far greater then that since it has lower lows and then went to higher highs.
This was surprisingly good, it wasn’t perfect, but overall it’s a great send off for the TNG crew. Way better than the movies we’re.
The Enterprise E is great though.
Up until the last 2 episodes it was a good 8/10. They just rushed the ending and had some sloppy writing in there.
– the whole ships using ai was pointless. This is the future.
– just make it a celebration that gets hijacked.
– the station exploding right when they get back was pointless.
– 7 of 9 distracting the ships wasnt needed. She should have been with Picard and dealt with fear of the queen or something.
– the old enterprise should not have been able to do anything to the Queen ship.
I’d still recommend the season just the last 2 episodes seemed sloppy and rushed and they spent too much time on the parts that didn’t matter.
gonna skip season 1 and 2 and give 3 a shot i guess.
I love the threads here compared to the Star Trek subreddit because people here are willing to call out how bad the first couple Picard seasons were, and most of Kurtzman trek has been.
There I just feel gaslit constantly about how anything new released is the new greatest trek lol.
Mike genuinely looks about 5 years younger during this review.
Matalas did it. He breathed new life into a dying Stoklasa.
Like two happy pigs rolling around in shit.
Trekkies / TNG superfans may like or even love the season but it was so, so bad from a neutral (scifi fan) pov.
Still salty they didn’t use the F but instead that weird ass, no-light-on-bridge having thing.
And the sacrifices it took for Picard to be good:
Dropping off one character and never mentioning her again, turning another into a “good” Borg queen that could have probs helped this season, letting a captain violate the temporal prime directive for the sakes of love, and killing off someone who we’ve already had a whole arc about the impact of his death.
>!/s!<
Wait, is that famous actor/tv personality Sir Rich Evans?
They are very kind to this show and I am glad they enjoyed it. I agree that season 3 was much better than the first two. I disagree that it was excellent. It’s fine. Quite watchable. I didn’t hate it. I even enjoyed quite a bit of it. But it’s also still highly melodramatic, kind of stupid, overly convoluted, terribly lit, and generally still very much a nuTrek show.
On the plus side, the gang is finally back together, and they mostly behave like themselves. The vast majority of the interpersonal drama and emotion in the season comes from places that make sense for the established characters. To be honest a lot of what’s great about this season is that it simply is nowhere near as bad as what came before. It is a massive relief.
Maybe if I was more susceptible to those more artfully deployed memberberries they talk about in the video, I would be more swept away. I think I am far too burned out at this point to care, as I dont think this show evoked much emotion from me at all other than the occasional chuckle at a joke landing or a groan at some of the writing doing the opposite.
That was not only the best season of ST for a while, but the best episode of RLM. It’s so good to see them pleasured by Trek instead of hurt.
These guys can get fucked. They basically provided a lot of fuel for all the Trek Trolls for the past 6 years. Why watch the show when I can watch the review, then get upvotes for regurgitating the review.
The second half really falls off compared to the barnburner that was the first half, with each episode progressively getting worse until the finale lands with a dud. But it was still streets ahead of seasons 1 and 2.
There is a perfect arc for the Borg from Q Who to BoBW to I, Borg to First Contact. After which the only real story left for the Borg is the bigger fish story, which Voyager surprisingly does quite well in the two-part “Scorpion” at the end of season 3/beginning of season 4. Beyond that, the Borg have become a narrative crutch for Trek. To paraphrase the Simpsons, I’ve heard “Resistance is futile” so many times, the words have lost all meaning. The Borg have figured into the other two seasons as well, so even just in terms of this particular show, going back to the dried-out Borg well is tired.
Which brings me to my second point, and that’s Patrick Stewart’s creative control. For many years now, it’s been somewhat obvious that Stewart either doesn’t get Picard, or doesn’t like Picard. He’s the reason for Picard’s fake son in season 7 and his action scenes in the films, including that fucking dunebuggy chase in Nemesis. And the series as a whole, and this season specifically, are more examples of that. The theme that Picard sacrificed having a family was a theme of TNG, culminating in Picard’s story in “Generations.” But now he just has one handed to him at the finish line and it just rings so hollow.
And for the third point, and YMMV on this one, there is a LOT of fan service in this season and there are a few points where it hurts the narrative. The extended sequences in Daystrom Station and at the Fleet Museum were neat, but they served no purpose to this story. In fact, that episode is really where the season turns from a bombastic adventure with an intriguing mystery into something less than the sum of its parts. Which is not to say that every cameo, reference, or homage is bad or that such things are inherently bad. For example, the homage to “The Undiscovered Country” near the end of the finale was terrific because it was subtle enough not to interrupt the story and also thematically appropriate.
Love to see people talking their passions. One of the better episodes RLM put out imo!
They really should watch Strange New Worlds to wash this from their brains. I don’t understand why they never continued with it. It is as Trek as Trek gets. Just because it’s not written like the Original Series or Next Gen is just them being stuck in the nostalgia trap. Of course characters in a show released in 2022-2023 are going to sound like it’s written by people in 2022-2023. If that makes them sound like teenagers in a mall food court or whatever, that sound like a them problem.
I didn’t even realize Elnor was on the Excelsior when it blew up. That’s how much of an impact he had.
I understand this be unpopular, but I decided to watch this review after never having watched RLM. But I always see them and their videos mentioned.
Ended up tuning out after 20 minutes. I liked Mike and hearing his analysis, but I found Rich really annoying.
On a lighter note, it’s been really fun watching their own fans having an angry existential crisis over RLM having any kind of positivity towards NuTrek.