Tuesday, February 25All That Matters

Flat earther debates an actual astronomer for an hour

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  • I’m growing increasingly convinced that most Flat Earthers, at least the ones screaming the loudest on screen, are actually just trolls that are absolutely 100% committed to their troll. So much so that they can’t turn back.

  • The main problem with flat earthers isnt that they are disbelieving or contrarian, but that they are ***lazy***. Science LOVES being disproven. The greatest scientists we know became such icons precisely because they showed how science at the time was wrong. The difference is they put in the work.

    Where are the flat earthers that go out and do the work? Where are the flat earthers that take the time to observe and record the movements of the sun every single day? Where are the flat earthers going out and making their own maps? Where are the flat earth scientists that are trying to advance their knowledge, rather than making hour long youtube videos of excuses and sophistry to try and cast doubt on established work?

    They dont exist. Because flat earth isnt about understanding reality, it’s about denying what has been revealed. It is anti-intellectualism in its purest form. It isnt about truth, it’s about being “right”, and any inquiry into reality might show something – ANYTHING – they dogmatically believe as wrong. And then they wouldnt be able to be smug about it.

  • I’d like to point out that dave is not an actual astronomer. He’s a teacher with a degree in chemistry.

    Edit: this doen’t mean i disagree with him. I just think the title of this post is wrong about that one fact

  • You can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into.

    “Never play chess with a pigeon.

    The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over.

    Then shits all over the board.

    Then struts around like it won.”

  • You know I’m reminded of this one bigfoot channel

    The guy that runs is it some kind of nutters narcissist. He’s long moved on from reason and sense and is now fully in the deep end of being totally loopy. According to him, bigfoot is a highly advanced and magical race with unknown abilities and technology that stop everyone from knowing they exist, unless you’re special and they know you and totally talk to them off screen.

    Every video, he appeals to the people that watch him and it’s some straight up cult shit. They’re the only ones that know the truth, everyone else is ‘fake’ and stuck believing in the real world and if you want the truth you have to ‘stop thinking with your normal brain’.

  • I know this is hard for people to watch, but I really recommend you try. Dave absolutely rips the moron to shreds the whole time, with really simple explanations for everything. It’s really cathartic if anything.

  • That’s a good video, but point of order; Professor Dave isn’t an astronomer.

    He’s a chemist, but he does a lot of videos on astronomy. Plus, a lot of astronomy uses things like spectroscopy and involves a lot of chemstry, so he definitely is an expert in that field. But I just wanted to point out his qualifications are in chemistry. I believe he also taught it in uni too (as an undergrad teacher, I think).

  • There is a video of a flat earther meeting and at the end some flat earthers decide to prove the Earth is flat. They actually did a pretty good experiment by putting three posts in the ground at the same height with a small hole at the top of two of them. The posts were far apart from each other. They then shot a laser through the first two holes on the tops of the post and if the earth was flat they should have seen a red dot at the top of the third post. Instead the beam went over the top of the third post. They showed that at least where they measured the Earth was curved and who knows maybe even round. Of course they ignored the results.

  • This isn’t necessarily directed at this video specifically but I hate how media often gives equal weight to science and whackjob bullshit. On the one side of the debate you have all of academia – countless people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of knowledge – and on the other side you have uncle Derick who dropped out of high school who reckons he knows better because he don’t see no curve. It is an insult to treat these opinions as equally valid.

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