As someone who knows about the technical aspect of drilling operations in oil and gas – every one has this backwards.
It would ABSOLUTELY be easier to train the drillers to be ‘astronauts’ – essentially passengers on the shuttles – not even pilots.
Drilling skill improves incredibly with experience, and that is even shown in the film that their experience means they know the extent to which they can push the drills even though it would be ‘on paper’ too much.
There is no way you can give astronauts 30 years of drilling experience in the training time allowed … but you can teach almost anyone to sit on a shuttle and move in zero gravity though.
I stand by this hard fact… Michael Bay might have been right without realising it – but he is right.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m not a driller so I’m not defending my own profession here … I was a geologist who knows what is required to perform a successful drilling operation and with those engineers experience really helps.
I have always said it would be awesome if they made a sequel where NASA discovered there really was a giant asteroid and rather than go train miners or train astronauts they went and found the actors from the first movie (“We have found a small group of individuals who have training as both astronauts and deep-core drillers.”) Everyone starring as themselves.
This is old but also stupid. The dramatization that nasa would reject professionals from riding along with actual astronauts to do specific tasks in space would never happen.
He should do a series where he rips into all these films…imagine if the rules change in Hollywood, that once an actor got paid for their money, they can say what the hell they want about it rather than trying to defend it
Weren’t there actually astronauts flying the ships? Weren’t the drillers JUST drilling? TF is Ben talking about? Maybe not the best clip to post when Bezos is literally shipping celebrities to the upper atmosphere lol
Michael Bay has the contradictory worldview that: the Government is bad and incompetent, and the Military® is good and can do no wrong. It’s pretty dumb/infuriating. You see this across his films, from The Rock through the Transformers films.
Affleck is right in his commentary; Bay elevates the ‘salt of the earth’ kinda guys knowing a thing or two more than those dumb know-it-all pencil pushers at NASA.
Couple that with the uber-creepy way he carried himself around Megan Fox and i’ve pretty much written him off as a shitheel who directs films for people who clap when the plane lands.
Note: I still think The Rock is a solid film despite the Bay-ism worldview.
If this were real life they would of just had the drilling crew as passengers, not responsible for any of the flight systems or trajectory planning, or even how to fly the damn thing. I know it’s a movie and I know it’s extremely over dramatized, but the fundamental idea is based in reality. Just think of any science fiction tv show, not everyone on every space ship knows how to fly the ship, you’ve got wide ranges of skill sets focused on individual tasks. You can easily train drillers how to work in micro gravity and maneuver in bulky suits, and sit and be quiet most of the trip.
Every time this gets reposted I just wish so much that Netflix had directors’ commentary versions. I’d rewatch so much stuff! Especially if it was just Ben Affleck shitting on all the movies he was in
Ben, having never had a blue collar job despite his Hollywood creation myth, obviously has no concept of the great divide between engineers and mechanics. This is a classic writing trope and a real, lived experience that anyone who has ever been around people who turn wrenches or builds in any capacity would recognize and audiences love it. His smarmy take exposes him as an out of touch dork within the first 30 seconds of this video. He’s barely funny.
Armageddon was an awesome movie. For the time. You had to relax your idea of logic, yeah. A buddy at work and I used to argue about this movie. He would say it was unrealistic… I was like , it’s a movie! With this plot! Yeah, unrealistic. Relax your sphincter, grab some popcorn and give your brain a rest. And enjoy.
i will never forget, going to the cinema to watch this movie.
as we were getting, the people who were watching it before us were coming out, and one girl was talking out loud to her friend and saying ”i can’t believe that Bruce dies in the end”
I lived in Japan in 2001, taught English in a conversation school south of Yokohama. Almost half of my students told me that Armageddon was their favorite movie. I couldn’t believe it, I asked follow up questions, but they insisted it was their favorite. It gave me a new appreciation for how well that movie tells a story in a way everyone can appreciate.
A couple of months ago – *the last time this was posted* – I tried to explain the idea of NASA use of **Mission Specialists** and why Ben Affleck should have just shut the fuck up, but got down voted for some reason.
Right or wrong, it’s funny to hear Ben rip into the movie. But my all time favorite is the commentary when Tom Clancy rips into the director of The Sum of All Fears (also a pretty bad movie) for getting, in his opinion, nearly everything wrong. Hard to find a decent clip, best I can do…https://twitter.com/maxfolkmax/status/1046841322789732352
Why does this get reposted so much?
Ben Affleck should do like a mystery science theatre where he just shits on all his old movies.
As someone who knows about the technical aspect of drilling operations in oil and gas – every one has this backwards.
It would ABSOLUTELY be easier to train the drillers to be ‘astronauts’ – essentially passengers on the shuttles – not even pilots.
Drilling skill improves incredibly with experience, and that is even shown in the film that their experience means they know the extent to which they can push the drills even though it would be ‘on paper’ too much.
There is no way you can give astronauts 30 years of drilling experience in the training time allowed … but you can teach almost anyone to sit on a shuttle and move in zero gravity though.
I stand by this hard fact… Michael Bay might have been right without realising it – but he is right.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m not a driller so I’m not defending my own profession here … I was a geologist who knows what is required to perform a successful drilling operation and with those engineers experience really helps.
I have always said it would be awesome if they made a sequel where NASA discovered there really was a giant asteroid and rather than go train miners or train astronauts they went and found the actors from the first movie (“We have found a small group of individuals who have training as both astronauts and deep-core drillers.”) Everyone starring as themselves.
This is old but also stupid. The dramatization that nasa would reject professionals from riding along with actual astronauts to do specific tasks in space would never happen.
Hoping he does the same for BvS at some point.
He should do a series where he rips into all these films…imagine if the rules change in Hollywood, that once an actor got paid for their money, they can say what the hell they want about it rather than trying to defend it
It’s a cheezy movie but i love it for the cheeze LOL
For anyone confused because they’re watching with the volume down, this is a voice-over commentary. The subtitles are only for the original audio.
I love this. It was always my thoughts about this movie.
Weren’t there actually astronauts flying the ships? Weren’t the drillers JUST drilling? TF is Ben talking about? Maybe not the best clip to post when Bezos is literally shipping celebrities to the upper atmosphere lol
By the way no posting of this is complete without this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff_z6RCm6uw
Something Michael Bay and [J. R. R. Tolkien](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Uz0LMbWpI) have in common.
Shut up Ben
Michael Bay has the contradictory worldview that: the Government is bad and incompetent, and the Military® is good and can do no wrong. It’s pretty dumb/infuriating. You see this across his films, from The Rock through the Transformers films.
Affleck is right in his commentary; Bay elevates the ‘salt of the earth’ kinda guys knowing a thing or two more than those dumb know-it-all pencil pushers at NASA.
Couple that with the uber-creepy way he carried himself around Megan Fox and i’ve pretty much written him off as a shitheel who directs films for people who clap when the plane lands.
Note: I still think The Rock is a solid film despite the Bay-ism worldview.
Funnily, 24 years later, basically all astronauts are scientists that were trained to be astronauts.
Michael Bay should have said maybe it would be easier to get an oil driller to act like an actor than get Ben Affleck to act like an oil driller
Still better than Deep Water, Ben.
If this were real life they would of just had the drilling crew as passengers, not responsible for any of the flight systems or trajectory planning, or even how to fly the damn thing. I know it’s a movie and I know it’s extremely over dramatized, but the fundamental idea is based in reality. Just think of any science fiction tv show, not everyone on every space ship knows how to fly the ship, you’ve got wide ranges of skill sets focused on individual tasks. You can easily train drillers how to work in micro gravity and maneuver in bulky suits, and sit and be quiet most of the trip.
Every time this gets reposted I just wish so much that Netflix had directors’ commentary versions. I’d rewatch so much stuff! Especially if it was just Ben Affleck shitting on all the movies he was in
Ben, having never had a blue collar job despite his Hollywood creation myth, obviously has no concept of the great divide between engineers and mechanics. This is a classic writing trope and a real, lived experience that anyone who has ever been around people who turn wrenches or builds in any capacity would recognize and audiences love it. His smarmy take exposes him as an out of touch dork within the first 30 seconds of this video. He’s barely funny.
Armageddon was an awesome movie. For the time. You had to relax your idea of logic, yeah. A buddy at work and I used to argue about this movie. He would say it was unrealistic… I was like , it’s a movie! With this plot! Yeah, unrealistic. Relax your sphincter, grab some popcorn and give your brain a rest. And enjoy.
i will never forget, going to the cinema to watch this movie.
as we were getting, the people who were watching it before us were coming out, and one girl was talking out loud to her friend and saying ”i can’t believe that Bruce dies in the end”
talk about ruining the whole movie for me.
I lived in Japan in 2001, taught English in a conversation school south of Yokohama. Almost half of my students told me that Armageddon was their favorite movie. I couldn’t believe it, I asked follow up questions, but they insisted it was their favorite. It gave me a new appreciation for how well that movie tells a story in a way everyone can appreciate.
**You know Ben, this is a real plan!**
I am gladdened by the responses here.
A couple of months ago – *the last time this was posted* – I tried to explain the idea of NASA use of **Mission Specialists** and why Ben Affleck should have just shut the fuck up, but got down voted for some reason.
It’s not that hard a concept.
Right or wrong, it’s funny to hear Ben rip into the movie. But my all time favorite is the commentary when Tom Clancy rips into the director of The Sum of All Fears (also a pretty bad movie) for getting, in his opinion, nearly everything wrong. Hard to find a decent clip, best I can do…https://twitter.com/maxfolkmax/status/1046841322789732352
Bruce Willis is a talented actor. it’s real that he ended his career in cinema(…