Apple is a demonic company. Their war on user serviceability is cartoonish. Even Sony doesn’t force you to buy their own proprietary SSD to expand the ps5’s storage, and you could argue they have just as much if not more incentive to prevent users mucking around with their devices hardware and software.
Yet people still buy them, I don’t see apple ever changing these practices. Most of the world realizes that the money is in a subscription type service, not the end product. It is all about revolving service and contracts. People rarely own anything, they just lease an item. Vehicles are relatively new to this but it started with industrial vehicles, tractors, that sort of thing that you are required to go to the OEM for all service. Consumer vehicles are starting this practice and I don’t think it will slow down sadly. Just like health care, the money is in the treatment, not the cure. Medical is a subscription service.
Why is US companies so disgusting. every single company is anti consumer.
like youtube not only does they change the code in the browser to block adblockers they double the price at the same time.
META does not need an explanation.
Tesla is horrible and is at war with sweden now due labor laws and first time in 90 years tesla is trying strikebreakers, its really sickening.
Amazon is a cancer to society. bad working condition, law breaking, lying to get deals and so on
Electronics Art and other gaming companies. how they implement gambling in child games. DLC, battlepass and other scam practise they implement anti consumer.
Ebay is worthless, just bans new and random users without any reason. breaking EU laws but they dont care.
its like a cancer spreading everywhere and is anti consumer.
Jesus this thread is filled the the dumbest fucking takes. The tribalism in tech products is such a ridiculous phenomenon. Don’t buy the product if you don’t like it, then move on with your life.
> What it all boils down to is that consumers of those products are at least partly responsible.
OP making the same logical error we see all the time. Blaming the consumer for purchasing a computer. The underlying problems with the business of selling computers needs to be addressed by regulation, not tiny boycotts. The consumer needs a computer and is not empowered to make choices based on the many factors that will affect society. They cannot buy based on what a company pays in compensation or how they treat mining, power generation, or lobbying. The consumer cannot be aware of dozens of factors that are rarely reported on and certainly never compared across industries. The government is large enough to see how the business is done and effect change for the good of the people.
> Apple is a demonic company. Their war on user serviceability is cartoonish. Even Sony doesn’t force you to buy their own proprietary SSD to expand the ps5’s storage,
Calling Apple demonic and lauding Sony is deliberate ignorance. They are the same type of creature. I buy products from both companies and have found many distasteful business practices for each.
> Owning Apple products is basically an IQ test at this point, I don’t need people to stop buying them, it’s good upfront, first-impression-type info.
If this is how you assess other people you are clearly the one with limited brain power. Your “flow chart” for making a purchase decision can be wildly different from someone else’s, it doesn’t make them stupid. It doesn’t make you stupid either, the way you interpret the differences does.
I find it interesting how the staunch defenders of Apple in this thread keep using Apple’s computers as examples of how long-lasting they are, etc yet are ignoring Apple’s main contributions to E-Waste, namely their phones and tablets. Why are you conveniently ignoring just how anti-consumer they are when it comes to repairing them?
That’s not to say that their Macs are much better, there is mountains of evidence which shows how much effort Apple put into making them tough or impossible to repair, particularly over the past few years. Louis Rossmann has many videos on the issues and is a staunch proponent of the consumer’s right to repair, and he’s not the only one.
You know the guy at apple responsible for creating ways to make their products repair-proof is just sitting at his desk watching this with a smug, shit-eating grin on his face.
At this point with Apple, you just don’t touch their shit. They clearly aren’t showing any signs of letting up after years of this garbage. Anyone who buys apple usually knows that it’s a “luxury” product.
The self-righteousness of Apple and the fanboys is what kills me. Yes they aren’t the only ones, but man they market the hell of how they care, but it’s just marketing when they only really care about your money. Just admit Apple is evil and you don’t really care because you like your iPhone and the way it makes you feel.
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Apple is a demonic company. Their war on user serviceability is cartoonish. Even Sony doesn’t force you to buy their own proprietary SSD to expand the ps5’s storage, and you could argue they have just as much if not more incentive to prevent users mucking around with their devices hardware and software.
Yet people still buy them, I don’t see apple ever changing these practices. Most of the world realizes that the money is in a subscription type service, not the end product. It is all about revolving service and contracts. People rarely own anything, they just lease an item. Vehicles are relatively new to this but it started with industrial vehicles, tractors, that sort of thing that you are required to go to the OEM for all service. Consumer vehicles are starting this practice and I don’t think it will slow down sadly. Just like health care, the money is in the treatment, not the cure. Medical is a subscription service.
The e-waste Apple has created is disgusting.
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Why is US companies so disgusting. every single company is anti consumer.
like youtube not only does they change the code in the browser to block adblockers they double the price at the same time.
META does not need an explanation.
Tesla is horrible and is at war with sweden now due labor laws and first time in 90 years tesla is trying strikebreakers, its really sickening.
Amazon is a cancer to society. bad working condition, law breaking, lying to get deals and so on
Electronics Art and other gaming companies. how they implement gambling in child games. DLC, battlepass and other scam practise they implement anti consumer.
Ebay is worthless, just bans new and random users without any reason. breaking EU laws but they dont care.
its like a cancer spreading everywhere and is anti consumer.
Jesus this thread is filled the the dumbest fucking takes. The tribalism in tech products is such a ridiculous phenomenon. Don’t buy the product if you don’t like it, then move on with your life.
This is a thread full on nonsense and hyperbole.
> What it all boils down to is that consumers of those products are at least partly responsible.
OP making the same logical error we see all the time. Blaming the consumer for purchasing a computer. The underlying problems with the business of selling computers needs to be addressed by regulation, not tiny boycotts. The consumer needs a computer and is not empowered to make choices based on the many factors that will affect society. They cannot buy based on what a company pays in compensation or how they treat mining, power generation, or lobbying. The consumer cannot be aware of dozens of factors that are rarely reported on and certainly never compared across industries. The government is large enough to see how the business is done and effect change for the good of the people.
> Apple is a demonic company. Their war on user serviceability is cartoonish. Even Sony doesn’t force you to buy their own proprietary SSD to expand the ps5’s storage,
Calling Apple demonic and lauding Sony is deliberate ignorance. They are the same type of creature. I buy products from both companies and have found many distasteful business practices for each.
> Owning Apple products is basically an IQ test at this point, I don’t need people to stop buying them, it’s good upfront, first-impression-type info.
If this is how you assess other people you are clearly the one with limited brain power. Your “flow chart” for making a purchase decision can be wildly different from someone else’s, it doesn’t make them stupid. It doesn’t make you stupid either, the way you interpret the differences does.
Anyone else remember when Apple justified the higher cost of Mac Books made with a milled aluminium chassis by talking about easy it is to recycle?
I guess that was only important back then.
I find it interesting how the staunch defenders of Apple in this thread keep using Apple’s computers as examples of how long-lasting they are, etc yet are ignoring Apple’s main contributions to E-Waste, namely their phones and tablets. Why are you conveniently ignoring just how anti-consumer they are when it comes to repairing them?
That’s not to say that their Macs are much better, there is mountains of evidence which shows how much effort Apple put into making them tough or impossible to repair, particularly over the past few years. Louis Rossmann has many videos on the issues and is a staunch proponent of the consumer’s right to repair, and he’s not the only one.
Was expecting
“Hey everybody,
How’s it going “
i have never seen a company spit in the face of its customers harder and longer than apple.
yet they still persist.
The video missed talking about iCloud locks.
New phone wont fit the old charger, this is your hero? ^(- Bill Burr)
I cannot stand apple and that is why I have not owned an Apple phone and over 10 years.
You know the guy at apple responsible for creating ways to make their products repair-proof is just sitting at his desk watching this with a smug, shit-eating grin on his face.
At this point with Apple, you just don’t touch their shit. They clearly aren’t showing any signs of letting up after years of this garbage. Anyone who buys apple usually knows that it’s a “luxury” product.
The self-righteousness of Apple and the fanboys is what kills me. Yes they aren’t the only ones, but man they market the hell of how they care, but it’s just marketing when they only really care about your money. Just admit Apple is evil and you don’t really care because you like your iPhone and the way it makes you feel.
Apples last good innovation was the original iphone with ios before it became a bloated joke. And they have been riding the shit out of it ever since.
Shout out to iFixit for tackling this problem for 20 years, check em out!
man Louis Rossmann sure sounds different