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Cringe rap trailer music and possible “historical” innacuracies asides, the movie does look amazing and i am excited for it.
After thinking/reflecting about, it would be kind of hypocritical to dismiss this movie because of historical innacuracies, but then jizz my pants over the likes of Gladiators, Braveheart, Patriot, Apocalypto, The Last Samurai etc…
I guess after watching The Northman, i just wanted another “historical” epic movie that is not afraid to go deep and raw into the gritty and darker aspects of older civilizations/tribes (main POV of the movie)… and who knows, maybe this movie will do that.
The truth is that “historical” accuracy isn’t what makes a good movie or not.
I am sure that regardless of the movie’s quality, this will be something controversial and that the Phantom Menace/anti-woke crowd will lose their minds over it, not to mention that most criticism towards this movie will be reflected with “you don’t like it because you are racist/sexist”.
“The Woman King” is a pretty cool title though.
Now, i will grab popcorn and witness the potential warzone that these threads will become.
Looks cool as hell!
Suuure..
So…queen?
this looks cool i finna watch it for sureee
Kind of funny how much they emphasize freedom in this trailer. They’re really going the other way with this one.
Hate movies that overly exaggerate historical figures
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So, did they really use Marvel MCU fight moves or is that part bullshit? Looks cool otherwise. I just wish we’d get a film about historical Africa that doesn’t necessarily have to dovetail into the slave trade or European colonialism. Something about Amanitore or Amanirenas would be incredible if you want a “warrior queen” story, especially the latter.
historically accurate or not this looks really good
I’m a bit conflicted about the controversy over this movie. On the one hand, a bunch of people who have never read any actual history on Dahomey, but have read some comments on Reddit or a Wikipedia article about it, have determined that this was an evil slave state that Europeans, with all their good intentions, were simply trying to stop from persisting in their evil slaving ways. Which of course makes this film look absurdly inaccurate.
On the other hand, the film *does* look absurdly inaccurate. But so is the narrative I just referred to. So it’s annoying to find myself agreeing with people that this is absolutely a cash grab and disrespects the complex and rich history behind this kingdom, while also knowing that those same people apparently have zero interest in actually learning about that history.
Just a few points: When you first start to learn about slavery in Africa, there can be a tendency to collapse a range of different practices, conducted by a myriad of different states and kingdoms, over a vast time span, into a simple and recognizable image that closely resembles (most likely) Antebellum chattel slavery. Yes, slavery is universally bad. But it’s useful to differentiate, in different times and places, how people became slaves, what kinds of lives they lived, and whether they could ever earn their freedom.
Secondly, many historical narratives about the brutality of Dahomey were written by—big surprise—European slave traders with a vested interested in defending their vocation as a “humane” alternative to the allegedly horrific conditions slaves would face if they were to remain in Africa. Actual abolitionists at the time had a very different take on places like Dahomey.
Lastly, don’t let the Brits get you twisted. Colonialism was/is just another form of slavery. They may have abolished the slave trade and used their navy to enforce it (mostly for their own economic self-interest), but they simply replaced slaves with indentured servitude and apprenticeship, which in many cases were just as bad if not worse. Both the British and French wanted domination of West Africa. So a movie about the Fon defending themselves against European invaders is not, on a surface level, inaccurate.
It’s also just funny because every few years we get a new release from this British propaganda series about a guy who works for MI6, an agency tasked with saving the world from madmen bent on destroying it. When in reality, organizations like MI6 (and the CIA) have spent most of their history routinely globetrotting the planet to back coups, destabilize regimes, conduct misinformation campaigns, and install dictators, mostly aimed at shutting down leftist movements and creating favorable conditions for European and American corporate interests. But people still go for it! We could say this is because James Bond isn’t a real person, but then neither is Viola Davis’s character Nanisca. So I dunno, something about the visceral reaction feels off to me.
TL;DR: This thread is gonna suck and I regret my own stupid contribution.
Well after [yesterday’s thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/vrxkzf/new_images_from_the_woman_king/iey0k1q/) on the actual history I can’t say I’m surprised at the story. But to be honest, it looks really good and fun and I’ll probably end up watching it.
I feel like this subreddit has already made up its mind on this film wether it’s good or not.
Historical revisionism aside, this movie looks entertaining. Plenty of a silly eye candy action scenes and unintentionally funny writing/plot points.
A surprise Viola Davis role, but a welcome one.
Braveheart is often called one of the most historically inaccurate movies ever made yet people love it. The same goes for 300.
Movies aren’t documentaries. It is all historical fan fiction at the end of the day so I am not sure why this movie in particular is singled out.
This looks cool. I’m all about bravado. Nothing like a hero standing firm, backed by fire and resolve.
So many people care about historical accuracy in this movie! I wonder why that theme seems to be defining all the reddit threads regarding this movie but takes a back seat with most other historical action movies.
At what point does a story stop being historically accurate and start becoming propaganda?
Wow, this thread’s getting brigaded to shit. It’s a shame that even through all their downvotes and misinformed comments, the movie will still release. Kinda makes what they’re doing virtue-signaling. Good job, dorks.
I am not surprised that all of the “criticism” (a term used loosely, as it is ALL in bad faith) ignores the fact that Gina Prince-Bythewood is a solid director who has never directed a bad movie.
This is EXACTLY what people were afraid it was going to be; a depiction of “YAAAS QWEEN SLAY” when the reality is far, far, *far* more nuanced and complicated. For fuck’s sake, these tribes were fighting to PROTECT their slave trade!
Ergh. Don’t put “Some things are worth fighting for.” in your trailer before a needle drop like you’re so proud of your awesome dialogue.
I’m curious if this is rated “R” or not. The flipping around and headlock throws look like a Marvel movie, I’m betting on a PG13 rating and completely trash action. It would fit with the sanitized version of history that their trying to sell with this one.
I think this bombs pretty hard in the box office. The only things getting people to theatres right now are good kids movies, Tom Cruise, and some of Disney. They aren’t showing up for a sword and sandals movie.
Pass
Never heard of Dahomey before, reading the Wiki page after watching this trailer is, uhh… Something.
It would be hypocritical to single this movie out for inaccuracy. But inaccuracy should be acknowledged and this is clearly a fantasy picture much like Braveheart. The fact that it’s so heavily scrutinized here only points to how bitter our racial divisions run in the States.
Yas King!
It’s kinda funny to me that everyone here can overlook the incredible historical inaccuracies in movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, and basically every medieval movie ever released, but because this obvious action movie doesn’t go into the transatlantic slave trade it’s terrible.
Hmmm I wonder why people can overlook those and not this?
All my implications aside, this looks well-acted and impressively costumed/shot. I’m interested.
The original summary said the story was about Nawi, the last surviving member of the Dahomey Amazons. That means the story is set in the late 1800s, most likely in 1892, when Nawi fought during the second Franco-Dahomean War. This means the film will likely ignore the slavery aspect and focus on the French conflict over territory. The weird part is that John Boyega plays King Ghezo, when it was King Behanzin ruling during this time, so why is he in this movie?
Oh, and the Amazons? They lost thousands of members in battle. The King had to surrender after burning the capital of his kingdom and trying to flee, and the French made his brother the King.
story by maria bello? that maria bello??
Since when was everyone on Reddit a history major?
Would’ve preferred a historical drama/action movie instead of a trendy Hollywood movie that’s beating you over the head with its crowdpleaser themes.
I’m good
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Let’s put the historical accuracy and queen comments aside.
All signs point to this being “The Message: The Movie.” It seems that black women violently driving off white men is the ultimate form of entertainment and logical endpoint for intersectional feminists, and it’s starting to feel like propaganda.
For a society trying to reach equality, I don’t like that its politically correct to glorify racialized violence because the right people are winning. Or that men must take a backseat because woman dominanting is neccessary.
There are people who are saying they want to see this, but I have no interest.
All this movie is telling me is that “The Message” is in a predictable and frankly bad place.
I am sure this is not historically accurate at all and it seems many will have a problem with it. Bigger than problems with other movies that similarly whitewash the truth.
With so many movies that have already whitewashed history from one angle, why is this movie so bad? Let them make a completely faked “blackwashed” story like there have been hundreds before.
Don’t look at hollywood for historical accuracy.
Love it!
reddit really is filled with a bunch of slightly racist capital bootlicking kids huh
This is going to be huge hit. I can just tell.
This movie is gonna bomb in the box office.
Strong and independent women that needs no man
Why are people acting as if movies like Braveheart and 300 aren’t criticized for their inaccuracies? That’s like half the discussion whenever 300 comes up.
I’m so excited to see this! Viola Davis is fantastic