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NJ says fk off to heated seat subscriptions in cars (Louis Rossmann)
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NJ says fk off to heated seat subscriptions in cars (Louis Rossmann)
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i don’t think i’d buy a new car until someone learns how to jailbreak it and upload to github
edit: $18 a month to use the heated seats you pay for is ridiculous
I don’t see the problem. Instead of having multiple production lines, making different variants of a car they can mass produce 1 type of car with everything in it.
Because the carmaker only have to mass produce 1 car it can become cheaper and you can always get the extra’s whenever you want it.
IF these practices means that the car price will drop then it’s a good thing.
I’m surprised Louis didn’t bring up the fact that many of Tesla’s “software upgrades” go away as soon as the car changes ownership. That pisses me off to no end. So you’re telling me I pay $3,000 to upgrade the car to go faster and as soon as someone else buys it the car goes back to the factory settings?! FUCK THAT!
If I fully pay for a car in cash why the fuck would I want to then pay extra every month for shit I already bought?
What other parts of the car would they not let me own? Heat and A/C? The radio? If I get a new debit card and forget to update the payment info will they lock the engine/motor?
Ok, heated seats are just a few wires… It would be trivial to Bypass the system and wire them directly to the button on the dash.
Soo.. nobody told them about the limited-slip diff “upgrades”? If there was a premium trim-level that promised headlights and seatbelts how long would the government take to step in?
How about they just downgrade the headlights to save some cash?
Because they really don’t need to be that bright. Honestly Its more dangerous to not be able to use your mirrors art night
crazy how fast legislation moves for this
I disagree that’s it’s a futile law. Raising the price to accommodate the lack of monthly income from the subscription is just bog standard capitalism where as allowing monthly subscriptions like this increase the precedent that its normal and leads us down a pretty dark path of neofeudalism
What Rossmann misses is that airlines started charging for bags AND jacked up their seat prices.
BMW will charge subscription fee AND raise the price of the car by $3000
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Or buy it and violate the warranty. This is an individual’s choice! Why would we want it any other way!?
I bought a new desktop computer. Why shouldn’t Windows 11 PRO be provided with every computer purchase? Why shouldn’t I also get MacOS too? I bought the computer, right? Come on…
The monthly service industry started in software… they could charge you $60 upfront for a game you might play on and off for a couple years or just charge $10 a month, and make $240 in those two years. Microsoft Office charges monthly now (with close to zero support) and they get around $750 out of you for 3 years of using their apps. They could never get that with upfront pricing. The absolute worst is Adobe acrobat DC which is $180/year to edit and create pdfs, that’s it.
He had me at part 1 and totally lost me at part 2.
If a company raises its prices and people keep buying it, how is this some evil thing? Are we really saying supply and demand & maximizing profit are a bad thing?
If a buyer will give you $60K for a car but a business just keeps its prices at $50K, you’ll still be paying $60K but $10K of it will go to the scalpers. Why reward scalpers? The full amount people are willing to pay should go to the company that takes the risk.
Tell me you don’t understand your market without telling me. SMH bmw.
it affects them so they will change it.
This is the future. You won’t own your entertainment, movies, music, car, computer, phone, TV, any smart device. You’ll simply always make a monthly patent or you won’t have content. You never really owned your home due to property taxes.
Imagine an electric vehicle that can be turned off if you don’t make payments. Imagine a car that detects your aggressive driving so it tries to sell you an upgraded turbo. Just approve a new month payment amount and in seconds you have a faster car.
You won’t own anything. And you probably never did anyway.
If something has a monthly subscription or requires an app to use it, I just don’t buy it. I know that’s getting harder but it’s really the only thing I can do right now.
Even on non subscription based products I get frustrated. I’m sitting here with a bunch of Logitech Harmony remotes which are fantastic devices and yet have no support going forward. The day the software stops working will be a sad day for me.
Now if I were to write legislation to outlaw practices like this I’d have a whole laundry list for subscription based services or web or app connected items.
* For every product sold the manufacturer must be able to support it for at minimum ten years after discontinuation.
* At the end of support, the company will either need to make said software features “open source” or purchase back all remaining functional devices and properly recycle them or provide a trade in option equal to no less than 50% off of the new product.
BMW responded to criticism by saying “well the heated seats are still in the car”. Yeah we know it’s there, we just have to pay a subscription for it. When is it going to be enough for people to say no?
Corporations, like toddlers, will constantly push their boundaries until they get their wrist slapped.